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VIRGINIA
CIVIL WAR RELICS
Civil War Cartridge Box
Plates
This page last updated August 31, 2010
EMAIL Phone: 804-873-5462
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Plez Bagby
PO Box 6425
Charlottesville, VA 22906
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American Military Belt Plates
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and J. Duncan Campbell are now available from Virginia
Civil War Relics. This 616 page book, filled with photographs
and descriptions, is the most extensive Civil War Military belt plate reference
book available and is a must have for the collector or general Civil War relic
enthusiast. These brand new books are available for $49.50 plus postage.
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PC1817
US Cartridge Box Plate
- Maker Marked "W H SMITH BROOKLYN"
This excavated US cartridge box plate, maker marked "W. H. SMITH BROOKLYN",
has an absolutely killer face. This plate was recovered on September
13, 1986 along Bark Road approach to
Shiloh, TN. Plates marked by
their manufacturer are much harder to recover than unmarked plates which
makes them much more desirable to collectors. The US brass face
has an even light chocolate brown patina and is simply flawless. The
rear has nearly full solder with a few areas of stabilized flaking.
Both iron attachment loops are present with one still holding a portion of
the leather thong that once held it attached to the cartridge box flap.
It is extremely rare to excavate a cartridge box plate with any leather
attached, much less the thong. The manufacturer's stamp of "W. H.
SMITH BROOKLYN" is mostly visible with portions requiring a light and loupe.
The plate has no cracks, breaks, bends, or repairs. This plate is an
excellent example of a marked plate, with leather, which will be a great
addition to any US plate collection or general excavated relic collection.
$295.00
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PC3089
US Cartridge Box Plate - Brass Hooks
This excavated large size cartridge box plate with brass loops is indeed a
fairly rare find. Of the US cartridge box plates recovered, 99% will
have iron attachment loops, this unusual example has the larger brass loops.
Recovered with permission at Harrison's Landing
in Charles City County, VA., by Gene Cooley, this example is clearly in the
"dug, been there, done that" condition. Its brass face has a very
pleasing green-yellow-brown patina and the rear has both large brass
attachment loops still solidly affixed. Another unusual aspect of this
particular plate is that both loops were cut near or at the apex of the
loop. Although the reason for the alteration is unclear, the cuts do
not appear to be recent as the coloring of the brass in the cut area matches
the rest of the loop. In other words, no bright brass is visible in
the cut area. The condition if this relic is clearly evident from the
additional images but it is still a fairly solid piece. According to
"American Military Belt Plates" authors O'Donnell and Campbell, the
brass loops of these 1839 pattern plates, can also be found on the 1826
pattern eagle plate, as well as the flat letter style Ohio "OVM" cartridge
box plate and Ohio state seal shoulder plates. An example of
this rare plate can be found in the second edition of the above mentioned
reference book, as plate 490 on page
305. These large brass hooked plates typically measure approximately
57 x 90 mm. This example, due to wear and tear, measures slightly
smaller at approximately 56 x
89
mm. Mr. Cooley is in his late 80's
and still relic hunts today. To read more about Mr. Cooley please
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here. $95.00
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PC2675
US Cartridge Box Plate
This excavated US cartridge box plate is an interesting relic. The
plate is complete with both of its iron attachment hooks still in place and
upright, but it is missing most of its solder fill. I do not believe
this is a case of the solder being melted out as there is no other
indications of it being heated or in a fire. I thought that the
missing solder may be a result of the use of a combination of substandard
solder and moist soil that it may have rested in for decades causing the
solder to rot away. This, however, would not explain why the iron
hooks didn't rot away as well since these are usually the first to go in
moist soil. We may never know the answer to this mystery. The
brass face appears to have a brown patina still covered by a light covering
of the soil in which it was recovered. The only flaw I can find (with
the exception of missing solder) is a hairline crack at the rim at the end
with the "S". There are no bends, repairs or other cracks. This
plate will make an very nice excavated display piece in any collection.
56 x 88 mm. $135.00
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PC2673
US Cartridge Box Plate
This US cartridge box plate, with its long tall "US" letters on its brass
face, has a very pleasing brown green patina. Although certainly not
perfect, with rim damage, partial lead loss, and no hooks, it does have that
certain war torn character. This plate is representative of what is
excavated out of farm fields across Virginia. Approx. 53 x 87 mm.
$55.00
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PC2674
US Cartridge Box Plate Maker Marked "WH Smith Brooklyn"
This excavated cartridge box plate is in fair condition and is complete with the
exception of the two iron attachment hooks. The rear solder fill is
stamped with the manufacturer's mark of "WH SMITH BROOKLYN" with only a few
of the letters visible. The green-brown patina'd US stamped sheet
brass front of the plate is now concaved due to years of ground action and
with several freeze cracks present. The rear has nearly all of the
solder fill but the iron attachment hooks are no longer present. This
plate has not been repaired and will be a very nice addition to any
excavated plate or general relic collection. Approx. 55 x 88 mm.
$85.00
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PC2377
US Cartridge Box Plate
This US cartridge box plate is in very good condition and was recovered
approximately 8-10 years ago by Virginia relic hunter Mark Stevens in
Charles City County, VA between
Malvern Hill
and Harrison's Landing. The plate has a dirt covered chocolate brown
brass front showing period wear. The rear has nearly full lead and
both iron attachment hooks which are rusty and straight up. Under the
"U" at the very edge of the rim, there is a little denting with a minor
amount of brass is showing through but is unseen from the front and rear
views. This plate is an excellent example of a recently excavated
plate with that nice "dug" look to it. The brass face has no cracks or
breaks and this plate will make an excellent display piece in any excavated
relic collection. Approx. 55 x 87 mm. $205.00
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PC1133
US Cartridge Box Plate
This excavated US cartridge box plate is an absolute beauty. Recovered
years ago from the
Cold
Harbor, VA area, its brass face has a slick brown patina and is
basically flawless. The rear has both attachment hooks with one at a
very slight angle and both solidly attached and in place. The now
stable lead backing is complete with minimal old flaking. The plate has no
cracks, breaks, or repairs and is a top notch quality collector's piece.
Approx 53 x 86 mm. $255.00
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PC1268
US Cartridge Box Plate
This excavated US cartridge box is in very good condition. Its brass
face has a chocolate brown patina with no cracks or breaks. The rear
has 99% full lead with both complete loops that are nearly straight up.
There is an upward bend in the rim to the left of the "U" but this appears
to be a result of period use. This plate was recovered from the area
of Brandy
Station, Va. The plate has not been repaired and will make for a
very nice display piece. Approx. 54 x 85 mm. $190.00
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